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daniel1975 schreef:Die stelling mag je eens uitgebreid onderbouwen, want volgens mij slaat die werkelijk nergens op.

mrcoffee schreef:Wat te denken over de dopingbeschuldigingen bij het zwemmen: 16 jarige Chinese zwemster Ye Shiwen op de 400m wisselslag waarbij ze de laatste baan zwemt in een tijd die gelijk is aan de tijden van de mannelijke toppers Phelps en Lochte!

wasbeer2006 schreef:Dat meisje heeft wellicht nog nooit een schoolboek gezien alleen een zwembad. het risico dat ze twee of drie jaar later zijn begonnen met tellen loop je ook nog.
Als er superjonge sporters goed zijn komen ze bijna allemaal uit Azie

Daarnaast vraag ik me inderdaad af hoe goed er in china gecontroleerd word?
Komen de instanties ook diep china in om een out of competition controle te doen?

mrcoffee schreef:

wasbeer2006 schreef:Dat meisje heeft wellicht nog nooit een schoolboek gezien alleen een zwembad. het risico dat ze twee of drie jaar later zijn begonnen met tellen loop je ook nog.
Als er superjonge sporters goed zijn komen ze bijna allemaal uit Azie

Daarnaast vraag ik me inderdaad af hoe goed er in china gecontroleerd word?
Komen de instanties ook diep china in om een out of competition controle te doen?

Ja, maar een meisje dat dezelfde tijd draait als de twee allerbeste mannen doet toch wel je wenkbrouwen fronsen.
Ik ben ervan overtuigd dat er in China een behoorlijk goed getuned staats dopingprogramma is (zie DDR etc.).
Sportieve resulaten op de spelen zijn een politiek uithangbord.

In 1993, females runners from the northeastern Chinese province of Liaoning appeared suddenly on the scene and annihilated a half dozen world records which had stood for years and won three gold medals at the World Track and Field Championships in Stuttgart.

The most phenomenal performance was put in by Wang Junxia, who set four world records in six days in September 1993. She knocked 23 seconds off the 3,000 meter world record and broke the record three times in three days, twice in heats. Under coach Mao Denzhen, Wang won a gold medal in the 10,000 meters and a silver in the 5,000 meters in Atlanta in 1996. She was awarded the Jesse Owens Prize in 1994, the first and only Chinese or Asian to win the prize. She reportedly trained so hard her toenails fell off.

Wang Junxia was the star member of Ma’s Army. Born in 1970 and sometimes called the “Oriental divine deer,” because her running style resembled that of a deer, she won the 10,000 meter world championship title in 1993 and broke the world record in the 10,000 meter one month later in China with an astounding time of 29:31.78, knocking more than 42 seconds off the old world record. It was the first sub 30 minute time in the event.

In 1997, Chinese women began breaking records again. Seventeen-year-old Ding Yanmei knocked more than five seconds off the 5,000 meter world record and two teammates finished behind her were four seconds ahead of the old record. The records were broken during heats rather than finals at a local meet in China.

Chinese officials denied that their athletes used steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs, and attributed their success to "their peasant stock, willingness to do arduous workouts and mysterious elixirs made from worms, caterpillar fungus and turtle's blood."

The coach of the women who broke the worlds records in the 1990s was Ma Junren, an illiterate former pig farmer and prison guard described by Sport's Illustrated's Alexander Wolff as "Princess Di, O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson rolled into one," "a hybrid of Bobby Knight, Bela Karolyi and Timothy Leary” and a "millionaire celebrity, a two-fisted smoker with throat cancer who's part medicine man, part con man and part guru."

Ma lived in three-story Mediterranean-style villa paid for with prize money made by his runners and royalties from special elixirs marketed under his name. It is said that he believed that his mother was a deer goddess.

The women in "Ma's army" did training runs equivalent to a marathon a day at a 2,336-meter-high training site on the Qinghai-Tibet plateau, sometimes in the middle of the night, while Ma yelled at them from a van or the side car of a motorcycle or stood by the side of road smoking a cigarette with a holder.

Many of the girls were poor peasants. They were forbidden from having boyfriends, wearing make up, sporting long hair or wearing anything other than sports clothes. One runner who went on a date was kicked off the team. Ma also monitored the girl's meals and ordered them to bring him food and do his laundry.

Ma's Bizarre Training Elixirs

Ma developed special elixirs made with caterpillar fungus and turtle blood to help the girls recover from their long workouts and made a fortune marketing these products to the general public. A 20 milliliter vial of his turtle blood elixir, Ma-One, sold well at the Asian Games in Hiroshima at $7 a vial.

The caterpillar fungus tonic, manufactured under the name Worm Hair King by Zhing Shan City technology, is made from a rare fungus that grows on the body of dead caterpillars in the western provinces of China. The thick dark-brown liquid is supposed to increase circulation and open bronchial tubes and according to its maker, "If you are 60 years old and walk with a cane, drink 16 bottles and you will not need a cane any more."

In the late 1990s, Ma betrayed Zhing Shan and began doing endorsements for China Turtle essence in return for $50,000 in cash and a $70,000 Audi. Later he signed a contract with a herbal medicine manufacturer that paid Ma $10 million and gave him a stake in the company.

The owner of the Zhing Shan told Sports Illustrated, "We supported Ma when he was just a pig farmer. He should be full of shame. Ma is worse than a blind American capitalist. At least in America you must honor a contract. Advertising turtle drink. Ha!...He’s like your person O.J. Simpson people still always talk about this man Ma. But everything they are saying is bad."

Controversies Surrounding Ma

In 1993, the Ma’s army was so unhappy with his training methods that they defected en masse. After Ma's women broke their string of world record's, Chinese authorities suggested that he train the men’s team. Ma took them up on their offer but after a couple of weeks all the men quit.

In 1994, 17 runners-including world record holder Wang Junxia—walked out training of camp with the support of their parents to protest Ma's withholding of Mercedes Benz cars and cash prizes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that had been awarded the athletes. Ma argued that it was a common Asian belief that students should give their prize money to their teachers.

Chinese authorities were so worried that Ma fed his runners banned substances that a drug tester was posted permanently at his training site and some runners were given so many blood and urine tests they threatened to quit.

In the late 1990s, Ma helped coach Chinese rowers, who won five out of five gold medals in the events they entered. At the Asian Games in 1998, Ma trained a new army of women's runners that were scheduled to appear at the World Track and Field Championships in Seville in 1999. At the last minute the team pulled out, rasing suspicions that some runners had tested positive for drugs.

Ma’s runners were kicked off the Olympic team before the 2000 Summer Games in Sydney.

mr.chrono schreef:Nee, het geeft alleen maar aan dat de Nederlandse vrouwen superieur zijn aan de Nederlandse mannen. Appels met peren vergelijken is wel degelijk mogelijk.

marconi schreef:Je bedoelt natuurlijk dat de Nederlandse vrouwen vaak betere resultaten behalen tegen hun buitenlandse vrouwelijke opponenten dan Nederlandse mannelijke sporters tegen hun buitenlandse mannelijke opponenten. Dat is evident. Het komt de laatste jaren niet zo vaak voor dat een Nederlandse mannelijke sporter goud behaalt. Je kan ook niet volhouden dat de buitenlandse vrouwelijke sporters minder trainen.In veel takken van sport laten ook de NL vrouwen het voor gezien. Laten we eerst maar afwachten hoeveel medailles de vrouwen meenemen uit Londen en hoeveel de mannen.